Category Archives: Misc.

Path Temperatures Along Intake Tract

Currently I have air temperature sensors located at various points along my S4’s intake path to monitor the air temperature under various driving conditions.

There is one sensor located in the intake pipe leading into the turbocharger compressor, approximately 10 inches before the inlet.

Another sensor is located in the hard pipe at the turbocharger compressor outlet but before the air to air intercooler.

I have access to temperature data from the vehicle intake air temperature sensor which is located at the entrance to the intake manifold.

A fourth air temperature sensor is the vehicle outside air temperature sensor located in front of the radiator.

Driving while logging these locations provides some idea of how the different components affects the temperature of the intake air as it travels along it’s path to the engine.

Shown below is a chart of these temperatures over several minutes of driving under changing conditions.

Chart of intake air path temperatures

As documented on the chart, the orange line was the atmospheric temperature at the time of this drive, a cold 28 degrees Fahrenheit.

The blue line shows the temperature of that air after passing through the intake snorkel, airbox/filter, MAF housing, accordion, Y-pipe, and upper turbo inlet piping.

Note: This log was made after driving for a short while, prior to which the vehicle was parked inside a garage where the air temperature was around 50 degF.

The red line shows the next stop on the air’s journey to the engine, after it has passed through the turbocharger compressor.  The large upward spikes indicate when the turbochargers were producing boost, around 22 psi in the case of the larger spikes.

Last, the green line shows the temperature after the air has passed through the intercooler and is entering the intake manifold.

Observations:

One of the most obvious take-aways from this chart is how substantially the turbochargers heat the intake air when producing boost, even at relatively modest levels for a stage 3 setup.

Another significant point is how well the intercoolers work at bringing that temperature back down so what is fed to the engine is relatively cool.  During this drive I was using the Silly Rabbit Motorsport B5 S4 SMIC’s.

Something this chart does not answer, but may provide some perspective about, is the significance of additional methods at heat management.  For example, thermal wraps, reflective barriers, cold air intakes, etc.  If the turbocharger is raising the temperature of the air up to 200 degF above the temperature it enters the compressor at, and then the intercooler pulls that air temperature back down by about 190 degF, is wrapping the entire intake path going to make much difference in the outcome?

Fluidampr crankshaft pulley

Soon to be installed on my S4 is one of the Fluidampr engine dampers.

Fluidampr 2.7T engine dmapener

I’m not expecting to be able to detect any difference from the driver’s seat, but hopefully it will help with engine longevity, especially at higher than stock horsepower levels which I expect my car to be operating at.

Here’s it is on a bathroom scale, weighing in at 7.2 lbs.

fluidampr_weight

And a couple more angles of the product.

fluidampr_bottom

fluidampr_side

Today I removed the stock crankshaft pulley and weighed it on the same scale to compare with the Fluidampr weight.

stock_damper_weight

  • Stock: 4.6 lbs
  • Fluidampr: 7.2 lbs

Here’s the two parts side-by-side:

fluidampr_stock_damper
(L-R) Stock, Fluidampr

Installed on the S4.

fluidampr_installed_27t

Finally, some additional information about what these viscous dampers do to help mitigate the affects of torsional vibration.

TTE550 First Look

A set of TTE550’s has arrived for evaluation.  The turbochargers came well packed and even included a balance sheet for each turbo, a nice addition for turbo’s that have been rebuilt to upgrade the BorgWarner K04’s to a hybrid using a variant on the RS6 center.

pair of tte 550 turbochargers
TTE550 RS4 K04 Hybrid Turbochargers

 

Looking them over it dawned on me that the ring that goes around the wastegate canister increases the effective diameter of the canister, and I have encountered problems fitting the TiAL turbo inlets past the BW K04 wastegate canisters.  This could lead to future headaches when I start installing these turbo’s.  The ring can be loosened and rotated, hopefully that will be enough to avoid problems fitting them alongside the inlets

tte 500 turbocharger compressor housing

 

I next turned my attention to giving the TTE550 a turn on the flow bench, something I have done with the BorgWarner K03 and K04 products in the past.  First though I’d have to remove the turbine housing studs so I could fit the turbine housing flush to the flow bench.

tte 550 turbocharger turbine housing

 

I’ll just twist this first stud out, or maybe not.  Vice grips, nope.  Penetrant oil & heat, nope.  F*******ck.  Not coming out.  Looks like I’ll be making a trip to a machine shop to have the studs removed.

TTE 550 turbo stuck stud

 

Until that takes place I won’t be making any progress with further evaluating these TTE550 turbocharger’s.

To be continued…