Category Archives: Turbocharger

FrankenTurbo, Turbo Selection

Big power FT21’s

During some of the recent activity showing the TTE 550’s and FT21’s on E85 tunes I forgot about this car’s results.  While the survey results thus far would indicate more are interested in quick spooling of the turbocharger, under the condition I outlined, it is still fun to look at what can be accomplished with these K04 hybrid turbochargers.

The S4 dyno’d below has the FrankenTurbo FT21 turbochargers, aftermarket rods, 2.8 cams, and using E85, no WMI.

Frankenturbo F21 E85 Dynojet

The car was also recorded on a FATS pull, a nice cross check to see how ‘legitimate’ the dyno numbers are.  It managed a 2.63 time in that acceleration exercise, which corroborates well with the dyno results.  Based upon the two results it would seem that around 500 whp is a decent estimate for the car’s power.

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My personal experience with comparing FATS to dyno numbers has been positive, I found when comparing my TiAL 605 setup on 100 octane race gas during a FATS pull with the results produced on EPL’s Mustang dyno that the two matched up quite well.

In the chart below the light blue line is what was recorded on the dyno (shown further down the page), and the other colored lines were FATS pulls of 2.69-2.71 seconds.

605 100 Octane Race Gas; FATS vs Dyno Results Compared
605 100 Octane Race Gas; FATS vs Dyno Results Compared

From the dyno chart below I have extracted the numbers for the solid red line to plot versus the FATS line above.

TiAL 605 results. 93 and 100 octane tunes. Stock S4 motor, no WMI.
TiAL 605 results. 93 and 100 octane tunes. Stock S4 motor, no WMI.

 

The Turbo Engineers, Turbo Selection

TTE 550 Getting More Interesting

Previously I’ve shown a dyno chart provided by The Turbo Engineers of their TTE 550 turbocharger for the B5 S4 and RS4.  The TTE 550 is on my candidate list as a potential replacement turbocharger for my B5 S4 and the dyno chart comparison of the TTE 550’s versus the same car (B5 RS4) with K04 turbochargers was encouraging.

While the dyno chart was showing encouraging performance from the TTE 550 I was skeptical of the K04 turbo results being representative of what a K04 equipped car would produce when tuned for performance, the comparison numbers on the chart are apparently for a stock RS4.

I came across a dyno chart from the same shop, MRC Tuning, that was of a K04 equipped S4 in a seemingly tuned state.  Below is an overlay of the K04’d S4 torque and horsepower curves and the TTE 550 dyno’s.  It’s evident that the base dyno chart does not illustrate well the performance differences between the TTE 550 and K04’s in a typical state of tune on a modified B5 S4 or RS4.  The differences in performance for tuned cars are not as large as they appear on the dyno chart alone.

On the other hand, what is impressive is how well the TTE 550 can match the K04 in low end performance with nearly identical torque and horsepower numbers below 3000 rpm.  Above 3000 rpm the TTE 550’s have a solid advantage over the K04’s all the way to redline.

TTE 550 vs RS4 K04 Dyno chart overlay
TTE 550 vs RS4 K04

 

The Turbo Engineers, Turbo Selection

TTE550 Getting Interesting

This dyno shows the TTE550 turbo’s on a B5 RS4 versus baseline data on the same RS4 with the RS4 K04 turbo’s.

TTE550 vs Stock RS4 Turbo's
TTE550 vs Stock RS4 Turbo’s

I find these results very encouraging as I look for a turbo that is similar to K04’s in low end torque and able to take full advantage of the stock S4 motor limits.

The scaling and units make interpreting the chart a bit challenging for me being accustomed to U.S. units at the wheels, but the curves showing similar low end response and significant delta that the 550’s put down over K04’s are unmistakable.