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Torque Values

Torque Values

CategoryPartTorqueDescription
01E TRANSMISSIONBottom 345 Nm Others 65 Nm
01E TRANSMISSION# 1 - M12 x 9065 NmQty=2
01E TRANSMISSION# 2 - M12 x 10065 Nm
01E TRANSMISSION# 3 - M10 x 6045 Nm
01E TRANSMISSION# 4 - M10 x 6045 Nm Qty=2
01E TRANSMISSION# 5 - M10 x 15065 Nm
01E TRANSMISSION# 6 - M12 x 13065 Nm
01E TRANSMISSION# 7 - M12 x 8065 NmQty=2
01E TRANSMISSIONDrive axle to transmission (M8) 40 Nm
01E TRANSMISSIONDriveshaft to transmission 55 Nm
01E TRANSMISSIONEngine Speed Sensor -G28- 10 Nm
01E TRANSMISSIONHeat shield above drive axles to trans 25 Nm
01E TRANSMISSIONLeaf spring bolt 25 Nm self-locking / always replace
01E TRANSMISSIONSlave cylinder to transmission 20 Nm self-locking / always replace
01E TRANSMISSIONTransmission mounting to subframe 25 Nm
01E TRANSMISSIONTransmission support to transmission 40 Nm
BODYFront Bumper support45 Nm Hex bolt(3x/side)
BODYBumper Bolts23 NmBy Foglights
BRAKEFront Ribbed Brake Bolt200 Nm Clean ribbing if re-using
ENGINE / TURBOSAC compressor to bracket (3x) 25 Nm
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADCamshaft bearing caps and camshaft adjuster to head 10 Nm
ENGINECenter bolt to crankshaft 200 Nm + 180? always replace / two stages of 90? also works
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADCoilpack to valve cover 10 Nm
ENGINE / EXHAUSTDownpipes to turbo 25 Nm
ENGINE / MOUNTSEngine mounts
ENGINE / DRIVELINEFlywheel 60 Nm + 180? always replace
ENGINEFuel rail to intake manifold 10 Nm
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADHall sensor housing bolt to head 10 Nm
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADHall sensor rotor to camshaft 20/25 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSHeat shield to downpipe/cat 10 Nm
ENGINEIdler wheel bolt (for toothed belt) 45 Nm
ENGINEIntake manifold to head 10 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSExhaust double clamp nut 25 Nm
ENGINE / EXHAUSTExhaust manifold to head 25 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSExhaust manifolds to turbo 25 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSOil check valve 25 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSOil check valve cover 10 Nm
ENGINE / TURBOSOil line to turbo 15 Nm
ENGINEOil drain plug 30 Nm
ENGINE / EXHAUSTOxygen sensor 50 Nm
ENGINE / DRIVELINEPressure plate 22 Nm
ENGINEPulley to crankshaft 20 NmHarmonic Dampener, Fluidampr
ENGINESpark plugs 25 Nm
ENGINEToothed belt tensioner 10 Nm
ENGINEToothed belt tensioning roller 20 Nm
ENGINEThrottle Body to intake manifold
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADToothed belt sprocket to camshaft 55 Nm
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADValve covers to head10 Nm
ENGINEWater pump to block10 Nm
ENGINEThermostat10 Nm
ENGINE / CYLINDER HEADTiming Belt Backing Cover10 Nm
ENGINESnub Mount Bolts25 Nm
ENGINEMechanical Fan Pulley Bracket 6 mm Allen25 Nm
ENGINEMechanical Fan Pulley Bracket 5 mm Allen10 Nm
ENGINEPower Steering Pump to Engine25 Nm
ENGINEPower Steering Pulley to Bracket25 Nm
ENGINEAccessory Belt Tensioner45 Nm
ENGINEFender Core Support10 Nm
ENGINEOil filler plug 40 Nm
ENGINEOil drain plug 40 Nm
GENERAL NUTS & BOLTSM6 10 Nm
GENERAL NUTS & BOLTSM8 20 Nm
GENERAL NUTS & BOLTSM10 45 Nm
GENERAL NUTS & BOLTSM12 60 Nm
REAR DIFFERENTIALRear final drive front crossmember to body (M10) 40 Nm
REAR DIFFERENTIALRear - Oil filler plug 35 Nm
REAR DIFFERENTIALRear - Oil drain plug 35 Nm
REAR DIFFERENTIALRear subframe to body 110 Nm + 90? always replace
SUSPENSIONFront axle bolt (M14) 115 Nm + 90? always replace / vehicle must be standing on its wheels
SUSPENSIONFront axel bolt (M16) 190 Nm+ 180? alays replace / vehicle must be standing on its wheels
SUSPENSIONLower cross member to subframe40 Nm + 90? install bolts from the bottom / always replace nuts & bolts
SUSPENSIONLug bolts121 Nm or 89 Ft/lbs
SUSPENSIONUpper spring perch to body locknuts20 Nm
ENGINE / INTAKEBipipe to Cylinder Head10 Nm

Turbo Swap Prep

In preparation for the next set of turbo’s I brought the Silver S4 into the garage and pulled the engine and transmission.

Turbo Swap Prep
Turbo Swap Prep

I think this pull was a PR, having extracted it after 4 hours and 35 minutes of solo effort.

What is the 2-11 time?

It was a little over 18 months ago when I was trying to determine what affect a turbocharger blanket would have on spool up that I defined a measurement called the 2-11 time.  The initial discussion of this measurement centered on how I determined what the measurement would be of, but not why I thought this measurement was useful for comparing the responsiveness of different turbochargers.

Recent discussion about the measurement has given rise to some questions that provide a good opportunity to look more closely at the 2-11 time and consider if there are alternative measurements that may be better at expressing the turbocharger response characteristic it tries to represent.

One of the first questions was “why not measure vehicle acceleration? ”  Fair enough.  When I asked how the data should be presented it was suggested to use rpm vs time, as a line graph.

Here’s a sample of how this would look for the first couple of seconds of a few pulls:

2-11_explained_rpm_vs_time

This to me is not particularly clear, at least not with respect to which setup is more responsive.  Putting these pulls into the format I’ve chosen, the data for these two turbochargers looks like what is shown below:

2-11_explained_k03-vs_550

Another advantage is the amount of data that can be represented while still being able to differentiate between the products.  The chart below has 255 pulls shown, if I were to try and put that many acceleration curves on a chart with lines it would be incomprehensible.

2-11_summary_oct_2016

Some other comments made were as follows:

“Boost pressure is not spool.”

True.  But looking at a compressor map,

k03_dyno_comp_map

the pressure ratio, (turbocharger outlet pressure divided by the inlet pressure), does generally rise with the increasing rotation of the compressor wheel, and the manifold pressure is a result of the turbocharger outlet pressure, after some of the intake piping pressure losses are taken into account.

While rising boost pressure is not a perfect substitute for the rotational rate of the compressor wheel, (the line of boost pressure rising is not parallel with the left hand speed line), it is pretty close, and it is an adequate substitute for my purposes.

The 2-11 psi range is approximately 1.2 to 1.9 on the PR axis.

How about measuring the rotational rate of the compressor wheel, could that been done?  Yes.  Garrett sells a speed sensor kit that retails for around $450.  It involves machining the turbo’s compressor housing so the sensor has a line of sight to the compressor wheel.  Unfortunately it will only be good on a single turbocharger, and as my effort has involved multiple turbochargers this is not a cost effective option.  Of course if someone is willing to fund the effort to purchase and install these systems on multiple turbochargers and then pay for the altered turbo’s they should contact me to make arrangements.

Yet another concern related to the affect other variables may have on the outcome.  This is something that I make a reasonable effort to control, but have limitations to work with.   A comment made to me was in relation to the vehicle weight and is worth looking into further:

“the weight of the car will effect turbo performance the same as overall acceleration. Weight = load. Load = drive. Drive = boost. Every variable you have mentioned being afraid of skewing the acceleration test is also skewing your spool testing”

Rather than load the car up with extra weight I decided to simulate a weight change by performing a series of pulls going uphill, and a series going downhill.  Then using ECUxPlot I’ve graphed the calculated acceleration (g’s) versus engine speed for each pull, shown below.

Uphill vs Downhill Acceleration
Uphill vs Downhill Acceleration

The affect of the road angle on vehicle acceleration is clearly evident.

How about the affect on boost?

Manifold Boost Pressure
Manifold Boost Pressure

Or if you prefer, airflow:

down_vs_up_maf

I believe that these measurements are strongly influenced by the road angle variable.  But how about spool rate?  This is what ECUxPlot calculates:

Turbocharger Spool Rate
Turbocharger Spool Rate

The two conditions, uphill and downhill, only start to break out into distinctive trends around the 9-11 psi/sec (2600-2700 rpm).  On the boost only chart this occurs when the boost curve is between 9-11 psi for the two road conditions.  Spool rate is not affected as much by the road angle as the acceleration curves are.

Placing this series of pulls into the format I have chosen gives the following result:

2-11_down_vs_up

Downhill appears to have a slight influence on the time, while uphill looks to follow the trend line for all of the data points.

The bottom line from this investigation is that I now feel the 2-11 time is less sensitive to vehicle weight than acceleration, dispelling concern raised about how spool and acceleration are equally affected by the vehicle weight.

Going forward it is worth considering the concerns raised about measurements such as this, but it is also important to weed out and ignore uninformed objections or those that are raised out of spite.